Feline Infectious Peritonitis

[Marnixowner]

Hi Daveyo
You state that other users of this forum have used this treatment. Could you tell us who has used it successfully. Or for that matter who has been able to get a prescription for these drugs. I was never able to get them. I was never able to contact this Dr Sears that you claim has found this cure either. Every Vet is waiting for a cure to this disease and its just sat right here in the open and no one is prescribing except you. Except of course you can't actually get it if someone needs it. Not one person has come back to this forum with a success story. Except you of course. You first posted your miraculous find six months ago and still not one person can confirm any validity to your claims.
Or maybe its just that the Vets and drug companies don't want to find a cure.

[Daveyo]

Hi Marn

Hmmm, one of them was Sharon here in this forum but I cannot remember her user name here since it is different. I did talk to her tonight. She did get this from New Hampshire and hopefully you can see it on this website as they make Atabrine for FIP Dry version. The real key to this Marn is to treat the cat at the early stages of the disease and not late where it becomes next to impossible to avoid all the other problems being caused by this disease on the cat. It is too much to overcome and the odds of curing gets smaller as the disease is progressing higher in its stages. The real success rate is early detection and then the Atabrine is given and then the cat gets cured. Same situation on Distemper on dogs. The earlier you detect the disease the better the odds and less complications resulting from that disease being kept to a minimum.

When you give this to a cat at the latter stages of this disease odds are slim since the disease is causing other organs of this cat to begin to fail. The drug itself does reverse the disease and its best to use it in the early stages, however when given late the immune system of the cat cannot handle the extrordinary load overall.

Example Say you get sick with the flu OK, now you go to a Doctor and ask for some medications such as antibiotics to help your immune system. Actually it takes 14 days for the antibiotics to kick in to be any effective. This part most people do not understand. If you are approaching the flu season then take the antibiotics the chances are you will not get sick since you kicked up the immune system to fight off the flu beforehand.

Unfortunately we ourselves cannot foretell when the animal is going to get sick, since we do not have the so called x-ray eyes of superman, but having the knowledge and doing some preventive measures before hand, the chances are in your favor to ward off any potential diseases or minimize its effects on our animals.

I understand your sentiments on what you wrote and honestly I am only doing my best to pass on the latest medical information of what I know works. I would not pass on information that does not work.

As of Dr. Sears, he is now officially retired and will not accept anymore duties regarding his assistance. I did talk to his wife and the abuse from so many people being inconsiderate like calling him at 2-4 am in the morning and pestering him during the day was way too much for his family, and also he is well over 70 years old and wants to at least enjoy his retirement, and I understand his feelings as well. The last converstation I had with them was in October. I will not give out his number and already has advised them to change their phone number and make it a private number as well.

Dr. Sears is one of the very few qualified VETS in the field that did research testing at the same time. Most VETS do not do testing research. Please keep that in mind. He also had a practice of which he sold a couple of years ago. That is how and why we now know about the cures because of his extensive research testing and also his commitment to animals in the hopes of finding cures whereas others will not do such and will want money and tons of it and even then that is no guarantee. He did this all on his own time and was kind enough to pass on this information and of his success on the treatments which by the way was confirmed and verified to be authentic and true to his medical protocol.

Also the failures coming from the other VETS is because they want to add their two cents into the medical protocol themselves thinking it will work and that itself causes problems. I have encountered this plenty of times. The only two cents that came into being which is about the CSF tap using NDV is not use the diluent but using Saline which is awesome and does not cause a shock condition since the H2O was reduced considerably and it is accepted by the spinal fluid and not cause a side effect. Saline is now the answer to that issue. Anything else all remains to be the same.

Feel free to check this site out as it is currently the only known source that makes Atabrine for the cats that I know of>>>>>http://www.wingatepharmacy.com/Compounding/Veterinary/tabid/74/Default.aspx


As to my site I am now compiling all the sources of where one can get the medications when needed since many of these are very hard to find. Example to find a drug to prevent pregnancies at instant when they mate is found in Singapore believe it or not. It is not found in America or Mexico or Canada or Europe. Sigh. It used to be around but not used anymore. However it is the best to prevent pregnancies in female dogs and it does not cause the side effects as it does to humans.

Some drugs work for humans and some do not. In those cases I have found it works wonders for animals. Go figure.

Hope this answers some of the arrows of your remarks and at least I can help you out.

Daveyo

[jnz]

Marnix,
First let me say that I have not tried the treatment put forth by Daveyo nor am I affiliated with him in any way. We lost our beloved Connor last year to FIPV and we have other cats that were in the house when he was sick so we are deathly afraid of another occurance of the disease. When Connor was sick (before I knew of this forum), we took him to several different vets and I have to say that I was suprised at how little in-depth knowledge most of them had of the disease. From my experience, I would not look to the veterinary profession for a cure. Vets do wonderful things, but research doesn't seem to be one of them. With that said, I believe Daveyo's treatment is the best chance at saving the animal. I showed a family friend who happens to be a medical doctor and has been involved in AIDS/HIV research the following statement written by Daveyo: "It stimulates the immune response, not stop it. Basically a small cytokine immune response storm. Small that is, but enough to kick it into gear. The drug has the capability to penetrate the virus and creates a T response to destroy it." My Dr. friend didn't detect any big problems with the statement and thought that whoever wrote it was probably very well versed on the subject. Not rock-solid proof I know, but since Daveyo won't tell us who he really is or anything of his credentials, there it is. As far as Dr. Sears, there is one. Do a web-search on Dr. Alson Sears and you will find many hits,mostly to do with his distemper treatment. As for the drugs, they are available in the US at http://www.animalpharmacy.net/. I called them and spoke to them directly. If any of our cats is diagnosed with this disease again, it will be the first number I call. We are lucky that we have found a vet that can think outside of the box and will prescribe the drugs mentioned if it comes up again. I pray it doesn't. From the tone of your posts, I get the feeling that you do not believe that the treatment will work and is perhaps a "quack-cure". It might work, it might not, but I don't see how you can make an assumption that it won't work. There is no proof yet that it will work and you have no proof that it won't.

[Marnixowner]

I do believe that this is a quack cure. And no I don't have any evidence that it doesn't work. But then again I don't have any evidense that tap dancing doesn't cure rain. Have a go yourself try to disprove something that doesn't exist by finding evidense that it doesn't exist. I'm not the one making claims about miracle cures, all I am asking is that someone who has experience of this working come forward. Or even someone who has tried and failed to come forward. Or someone who has managed to get this drug prescribed come forward. This drug is available in the UK should someone be willing to write a presciption but no one will. Why? Because no one who can make out a presciption is willing to on hear say from some anonimous person on a message board. I did contact Dr. Sears animal hospital in an attempt to get in touch with him but they have no contact with him. They did give me the email address for canine distemper that Daveyo has already quoted in an earlier post. But seveal emails later I've had absolutely no reply. Daveyo has made the statement that people on this forum have used the cure to some success but having read through the posts I not found a single person who can confirm they have tried let alone tried and succeeded. If you make a claim like this without providing proof then you aren't helping anyone. I suggest you go to one of the pharmacies mentioned and try to actually get this drug. Having it or making it doesn't mean they will hand it over without a prescription. I'm not sure how the law works with obtaining restricted medication in the USA and I believe it is restricted. I tried and was unable but maybe they are just unwilling to supply this drug overseas. Give it a go I'd like to hear from you if you can.

[Daveyo]

Hi Marn

I understand your frustration of what your saying.

So please read this and the following

Back in 2007 I had 5 dogs coming down with Canine Distemper and at that time yes there was no known cure out in the journals or anywhere else that I could think of and went thru 4 exhausting days and nights looking for a way to cure the animal of this disease. I have come across many mostly of homeopathic means which to me was not the answer. Then I found Dr. Sears deep and I mean deep and buried in the search engine under a very different site which no longer exists or even kept up to date. In the meantime the 1st dog died in my arms of this disease named Dino.

Then I made contact to him direct and explained everything to him. I followed his treatment protocol since I did not have the time of the world to check it out and it being my only hope to save my dogs.

Well my dogs got saved and was cured of that lousey disease in 24 hours. Body wise!!!!!! Witnessed by 4 Agricultural Doctors here in their presence!!!!!!!!! Then Dr. Sears warned me about the CSF situation. Now I had the time to check it out and found he was telling the absolute truth concerning NDV curing the dogs in the body. Also I found in the human literature that a person who had cancer and the same disease as Senator Edward Kennedy has currently was completely cured of both diseases using NDV.

Skeptical right sure for most folks but yet this is officially in the human literature journal. Can't doubt that part.

After his warning then the next dog did die of the CSF ODE symptoms and that was Toni. Now only 3 left.

I became desperate and knew the other two dogs were going downhill as I can see the physical deterioration taking place.

Again I contacted Dr. Sears and worked with him back and forth via e-mails on the CSF cure day and night and working out the formulas with him. Finally we came up with the formula and officially made actually the very first attempt on the CSF using NDV!!!!!. We had no time to analyze if the NDV will react to the CSF fluid or save or kill the animal. I had no choice since Skippy was having full ODE of seizures and Charlie was going fully paralyzed. The last dog showed no symptoms of ODE and still doesn't to this day.

Anyway the CSF attempt was done in November of 2007. I saw the horrific damaging effects of what Canine Distemper can do to the animals nervous system. Then come December they stabilized and began the journey of recovery right around Xmas time.

At that point being December Charlie was completely paralyzed and can only lift his head and felt just a little on top of his spine and the rest of his body was dead - no feelings at all. Charlie was in full Seizure phase.

Now come end of December to January Charlie began his recovery as well as Skippy. Charlie began to walk again in April, and Charlie's seizures kept going down slowly but surely. Today both are healthy, and Charlie can run and jump except to go up and down the stairs and Skippy loves the outdoors and seizures at a bare minimum now.

I have the official confirmation to prove that both dogs had confirmed Distemper antibodies in the CSF prior to the tap attempt.

So this VET here in Thailand had CATS that were coming in with dry version and he had one himself being an owner to his cat and asked me out of desperation himself to find a cure. Went back to Dr. Sears and discussed it at length and came up with Atabrine if treated in the early stages the success is 90%. Cannot do anything for the wet version and only quinicrine is the answer on that one for the life of the animal, unless another researcher can find something better.

Ok I will vouch for Dr. Sears a full 100% and that his treatments and protocols are truly medically authentic. Also Dr. Sears came up with a cure for Fading Puppy Syndrome, and also the NDV will cure animals of severe Kennel Cough and respiratory herpes as well.

I will swear this in any court of law if asked under oath as it being true and correct.

Yes it was I who diligently worked hard to figure out the missing data for Dr. Sears on the CSF issue which is by far the most dangerous method to perform. NO ONE to this day and I mean no researcher has come up with cures that many will consider it being Voodoo medicine as I have been told direct because no one can believe that a disease can be totally stopped in 24 hours. Well I got today 3 dogs as my official proof!!!!!!!!!

As of the cats, Dr. Suthee has one of his cats as official proof cured of FIPV dry version. Doing well today. He followed the precise protocol given from Dr. Sears and this same person is also a certified VET in the same field. Did not want to change a thing. He is now a believer of these cures.

A quack I don't think so Marn. This is authentic and medically proven. Dr. Sears has over 600 case files saving dogs of this disease on his records body wise and I myself have testimonials from other owners talking about Dr. Sears and the cure.

Since I had the chance to check all this out, I can vouch that it being legit and true to form no doubt about it. I myself went to a lab and did some smears and placed it under the electron microscope. Put the NDV on it too. Then left for about 5-10 minutes and came back. Huh, what happened to the virus it is not there. I had others see the same thing. Strange and thought someone else was using the scope. Did the test again and sat there and watched it and as the time started ticking away the virus itself was getting wiped out by the NDV!!!!!!! 15 minutes later gone!!!!!!! Test verified.

Same for Atabrine but it was slower speed wise.

Nobody ever thought anti-malarial drugs was the answer for cats having FIPV. Who would have?????? Since there are very few cat disease researchers and the cats are on the bottom of the list as of priorities since they are not really linked to human diseases. No one ever thought NDV made many years ago was the answer to Distemper which itself ranks right up there with Rabies and I think Distemper is the number 1 killer of animals today. Rabies is gradually being brought under control as I type here. Distemper is going still wild. Dogs and humans relate disease wise and Multiple Sclerosis is the same as MEASLES same thing the dogs get but of different DNA but on the same tree.

Right now I think my test and official attempt on the CSF is the answer and the cure to Multiple Sclerosis in humans.

So for what it is worth you can be a skeptic for life or open up a bit and do some research yourself if your medically inclined and maybe do some tests and find cures. As I said before do you have 10 grand a week to get one of the smarts to test your theory out and have them break the tree down to figure out just what did the trick?????? To my understanding coming from a highly reputable source in Minnesota, the cost is 100 dollars a hour, meaning about near 1 grand a day plus extra. Total time minimum for them to get a part answer will take 6 months. I don't have that kind of money > do you????

So therefore I am most humble and grateful for Dr. Sears to share his knowledge to me and we were very close together until his announcement to officially quit for good. Thank God for his generosity and providing us some true authentic answers even though those freaking smarts did not give him a chance to prove his theory otherwise they will look like fools themselves.

Yes I too went to the medical board and made attempts and got back snotty answers from the smarts themselves. They called it voodoo medicine directly to my face yet I had all the bonifide proof right there in front of their faces.

What do you want me to do to them?????? Stick a pie in their faces.

Come next year or shortly thereafter you will see me in the news on T.V. Yes I will be making this announcement in the Chicago region and others will be timed to make their announcement in various cities as well. Yep it is being planned and I am going to blitz them right out in front of their faces full lock stock and barrel. I want everyone to know what is available for people and animals and that there is a cure available and hope as well. I am just like Dr. Sears right now, very frustrated and tired of these smarts who don't want to lose the millions that they get yearly for their income. If there is a cure known, they can lose a nice chunk of their treasure chest donations.

The last being of who I am. I prefer not to mention it. I don't want to go thru the same problem that Dr. Sears has and had done to him. Therefore some clues are here and it has been mentioned and I have not disputed any of it.

So others have said if you find something else better that works feel free to do it and let us know. I myself very much doubt anyone will find a better cure for the time being unless the stem cell research gets a good kick of funds to move up the ladder. Embryonic stem cells holds the key to everything. I myself cracked the last known barrier being the autoimmune system and found a way to control it and the deadly T-cells that attacked the good cells instead of the infected cells. If you can do better than this let me know cordially.

You know it is not wrong for you to question and I salute you for questioning me and Dr. Sears. That is what this world is about brother. To question is to be smart and not to question is to be ......... whatever you think it being. So I have devoted much of my time to help others and the rest is up to the others to either take action and follow instructions as given or not do a thing and watch them die as most VETS will do.

It is a crying shame that this has not been organized better and communicated better but how to do against the higher ups who control the dissemination of such discoveries etc.

Bird flu and the claim of Tamiflu saves etc. A joke indeed. Humans cannot sustain a huge cytokine storm in the immune system caused by a virus!!!!!!! You will drown to death in your own body fluids if you catch that disease. Only three anti- immune suppressants can save your life and then the antibiotics to stabilize your system. Look in the Natures Journal and you will see it for yourself.

If it gets a foothold in the near future, 4 billion will die or a bit more before it stops.

I hope to never see it happen in my lifetime, but it will happen sooner or later. Right now it is a ticking time bomb.

Skeptical OK, go ahead. At least I got my meds ready to go to save myself and my dogs as well if it happens. No problem.

End of chapter

Daveyo

[scalrag]

Is it possible to have both dry and wet fip? my vet reckons it is, i have just returned with Henry our rescue Cat (approx 1-2 yrs).Three weeks ago he was showing signs of an eye infection.I took him the vet ,they gave antibioic/steroid drops but it didnt clear.When I returned they suggested tests. They stated he had fip but couldnt state what type??from research on the net (Dr Addie Glasgow University)it looks like he was showing signs of dry fip,( the red iris in his eye).He's been lethargic just sitting by the fire/heater all day-but hes been eating.His stomache seems to have got bigger and bigger-sign of wet fip!!
I took him back today as his 2 week course of Peridnome steriods had finished.She says it will soon be time to let him go that he now is showing signs of wet fip and has took him off the steroids and basically has let him come home for a few days.
I just didnt know that a cat can get both forms?? It sounds like its too late to try anti malarials if not could he try both quiine and atabrine??
Any advice?
On Dr Addies site she states in 8 out of 10 cases Fip is misdiagnosed in cats.

[Daveyo]

I suggest you go to another vet who has the qualifications and understanding of FIPV. Get some tests done on your cat for verification of this disease.

Unfortunately without knowing the test results I cannot specifically say which way the cat is going. It is rare to see a cat with both symptoms at the same time. Dry and wet.

If this cat has both, and this has not been done yet to see if both meds have any effect especially the side effects or react to each other. Consult the VET concerning the meds itself. Wehave never reached that particular stage.

This is the best I can do for you at the present time being. Go to another VET OK

Daveyo

[scalrag]

Thanks Daveyo
I didnt want to put him through more tests.But as he has come off the steroids and is still eating (small amounts).I think ill get a second opinion.
It doesnt help that the tests he has had done our vets dont give you the results, they just say it looks like its FIP and wave what looks like a cashier till receipt in front of you.
Ill ask for some paperwork I can take to another vet.
Scalrag UK

[Daveyo]

Well since your in England, I am just gonna take a guess that there has to be a top notched Animal University that has a Hospital as well that treat animals besides education.

I would think that would be your best best to go to have your cat Checked out. It is hard to find a good serious private VET that can do the tests or even know something about the disease.

I would think your odds would be much better if you went to this University Hospital, since most Universities do have all the equipment and do have loads of data of such knowledge of most animal diseases, so why not????..................................go there and get the disease confirmed either wet or dry???

Daveyo

[Aimee]

I lost my baby Lucy to wet FIP two weeks ago. It has been the worst experience of my life...

I happened to find this thread today. Truth is, I don't have any data to prove or disprove what Daveyo is saying. However, I have some big questions about your credentials, simply based on this quote:

"Example Say you get sick with the flu OK, now you go to a Doctor and ask for some medications such as antibiotics to help your immune system. Actually it takes 14 days for the antibiotics to kick in to be any effective. This part most people do not understand. If you are approaching the flu season then take the antibiotics the chances are you will not get sick since you kicked up the immune system to fight off the flu beforehand."

I am a medical doctor, and in the healthcare community it is common knowledge that the flu is caused by the influenza virus. A virus is not caused by bacteria, therefore, antibiotics are useless in fighting it. Antiobiotics do not "kick up" the immune system, they kill bacteria. Also, very few physicians will write a prescription for 14 days of antibiotics. If you are deathly ill in the ICU, then maybe a course that long will be ordered, but that is generally considered an excessively long course. For a UTI, for example, a physician might write for 5-7 days of antibiotics. They will "kick in" within the first 24 hours. They may not completely wipe out the infection if you don't complete the course, but they will start working quickly.

If you are truly a medical researcher, how can you not know that the flu is caused by a virus? We have vaccines for viruses. Vaccines "kick up" the immune system by presenting it with killed or weakened viruses (or single viral proteins in recombinant vaccines). The immune system responds by forming antibodies. When you are exposed to the virus, the antibodies, if in high enough concentration, will fight off the infection.

I would love to believe what you are saying, but I am having a hard time. If some old anti-malarial drugs can stop this terrible disease, why haven't there been any articles published on it? This seems like frontpage news for veterinary medicine journals. Reference some published data, please.